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[theme elohim]

Hip Hop indaba is coming soon in August. I hope you cats got an idea on how we can also hold sessions and knowledge lessons to discuss the fate of Ziimbabweran hip hop?

[XTERMINATOR]

theme elohim said:

Hip Hop indaba is coming soon in August. I hope you cats got an idea on how we can also hold sessions and knowledge lessons to discuss the fate of Ziimbabweran hip hop?

yEAH I THINK IT'S A COOL IDEA...I'M GOING TO STICKY A FORUM TO HOLD DISCUSSIONS...wE NEED TO DO MORE.HOLLA

[batsirai]

there cant be no hip hop without the producers and studios....as long as them producers dont come up and do some'n our rimes will remain foever etched in ink...forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[black ghost]

there are alot of producers out there who are doin crazy shit even with fruity loops. the only problem is cash. coz producers are cool but cash for studio time and burning demos or albums. we cant just put it on the lack of producers. we need to stop talking about what we dont have thats what hurts us. we need to be thinkin about what to do. get together as real mcees and do something like the ventilation mixtapes where mcees on the real are busting their asses like street teams in the states pushin mixtapes for underground mcees. last week a nigga approaches me i was wearin baggies and some airforces and he's like "you like hiphop ryt" and i was lyk yeah then he gives me this demo cd for an upcoming cd . the cd was shit and the mcees terrible but on the cd it said shit "like copy at will" "listen and pass it on" dudes the talkin is all good but action is the best. even if it means gettin someone to beat box ar do covers for the moment until you can get beats then that has to be done.

much love for the revolution...

[prolyfik]

black ghost said:

there are alot of producers out there who are doin crazy shit even with fruity loops. the only problem is cash. coz producers are cool but cash for studio time and burning demos or albums. we cant just put it on the lack of producers. we need to stop talking about what we dont have thats what hurts us. we need to be thinkin about what to do. get together as real mcees and do something like the ventilation mixtapes where mcees on the real are busting their asses like street teams in the states pushin mixtapes for underground mcees. last week a nigga approaches me i was wearin baggies and some airforces and he's like "you like hiphop ryt" and i was lyk yeah then he gives me this demo cd for an upcoming cd . the cd was shit and the mcees terrible but on the cd it said shit "like copy at will" "listen and pass it on" dudes the talkin is all good but action is the best. even if it means gettin someone to beat box ar do covers for the moment until you can get beats then that has to be done.

much love for the revolution...

yeah the producer stuff is true so many hot beats underground but you juss dont expect someone juss to come up to you and say i got this hot beat you wanna ride damn that will never happen as long as we do not market the industry as a whole other wie we`ll jussss be taken as the new urban guruvhas

[batsirai]

tru tru tru that....but ibeen here for a while and no real offer has come up......noone eva claimed they owned some studio stuff wether it is demo or pro....i'm askin werre are the producers on this forum......and KuntaWorld were u at?...i hear they got some hot mixtape stuff out in the diaspora but mos of the mcees on that are brothers in the diaspora...wen will they come and try to do some mean stuff back here and put us on one'o they tapes even if it means the stuff dont get released here (coz of our porvety we cant buy that we pirate).....maybe we need roadshows to put us on the podium.

[black ghost]

im with prolyfik we got to advertise this thing. people i know we got access to printers and stuff. we can pass out flyers announcing some hip hop gigs so that people are aware. once the vibe stops being some secret society thing were a couple of niggas show up to scatter free style then it can be big and we can draw more people. because i neva knew there gigs were niggas met up to freestyle or perform either in H or in Skies. its got to be a known thing. once its known people will feel it and we will draw the reall producers who are in hiding. coz truth be told. if your a producer with some hot shit are you gonna throw it away to major players?

and about the diaspora acts we got to tell them how we feel about shit coz in the end we're all still zimbabweans wether in sa usa or the uk or wherever. we got to keep it solid.

much love to the revolution.......

[batsirai]

i feel u on the gigs stuff.... but where can we get these venues...i know we got the sound systems around here to do this in ghetto (m talkin stordart hall etc here). ....this is feasible i mean dancehall pple do gigs there so wez the rap? by the way do we have real DJs out there... i'm talkin turn tables and all pple dont wanna hear cd back trax they are facinated by scratchin and all..personally this is wat streangthened my love for hip hop... we can even do this thru chuck Nosis( rythim unltd) jus like back Mzansi..u feel me.. now this is wat i'd call ardvetisin man.....

[phonte]

emcees ........
tell tha truth we aint even spozd be talkin bout producers right now coz thats like comin up wit stupid excuses,producers aint got nuthang to do with this at all ..so who does??we all do , i feel we aint that hungry ...ew aint pushing our selves that mush nahimean ......we all know we can rhyme n all, or so maybe we all think,tha thang is we aint pushing tha right buttons , i am always looking foward to chuckys program ,first off coz i aint no hater for starters but then thunny always dissapoints ,note that ALWAYS coz thats real tru rite there , ya see tha advrt n he is talkin we gone be showcasing hiphop n all ,then tha show comes thru n he is juss showing us his mans Metaphysics,wu i like n all but thunny is established already ...i know for a fact there is cyphers goin on in Harare n all ,Book cafe n all,he can aproach alll em catts n get em to cypher for us,get ma mans Munetsi on tha show,get Thought,get Orthodox onit,get Tha movement catts, get Nemo on thats show....i mean get emcees up on that show...
secondly we emcees need work togetha instead of this lets battle bullshit ....ok am cool wit it but mos catts is overtly sensitive n em battles only creaate some "beef"....nway off that .. ifya knw a cat rhymes n all ,aproach him ,hop on any beat wether its from preemo,pete rock or wueva n jusss show you got it nahimean ..

[QUODIVERSE]

As far as i'm concerned heads should not be recording albums yet.
Here's how i think we can make it with this thing.
1.stop looking for a hand to feed us/give us.There are no handouts.Especially for hiphop in
Zim.Maybe if we were urban grooves.NEWSFLASH:we are not!

2.Make beatz in our bedrooms,record MIXTAPES,Not Albums, and take them to the streetz.3.Sell from your backpack on a street corner,push it as cheaply as possible.If u have to sell,
charge for the material only not the music.Just get the names out.Push hiphop like a drug.Give it for free till their hooked.

4.Don't break your back tying to get to the people thru the radio.That has never worked for hiphop in this country.Break it trying to get to the peeps direct.Media will have no choice but to take notice.

5.We should hit the grassroots with this.The big people with the big pockets will only go where they know they'll find people.Until we have the people no promoter will invest in hip hop.It's just not good business.Just look at Tuku Or Macheso,they dictate the terms coz they got the region in the palm of their hands.Promoters have wet dreams about getting an event with these cats.they trip over each other.

6.Shows in the townships.Beauty pageants.Cyphas in the park. Battles on First Street or the Bulawayo Centre.BE VISIBLE.Carry a demo everywhere you go.

Push it like a street evangelist.They Will buy into our gospel sooner than later.
We just gotta take destiny into our hands.

-Q.

[batsirai]

QUODIVERSE said:

Cyphas in the park. Battles on First Street or the Bulawayo Centre.BE VISIBLE.Push it like a street evangelist.They Will buy into our gospel sooner than later.
We just gotta take destiny into our hands.

-Q.

i hear they used to do a thing-a thing by the "chess board" there in first str.....i wonder wat happened.....and tuku never used to be the don til he took it to africa....we aint done that yet..look we talk about skwatt camp and all.....thats how big they are but i aint feelin half they stuff...its Ymag doin it here...cant we come up with our own mag..i've spit this before on the forum about need for a zim mag thats tru to the street...coz kuMbare i got pple who got shit gang painted on the dura wll...who got rap murals in they rooms same thing for other hoods...we deprivin them of the real deal life....BUT i'm sorry i'm clueless here...TODINI...WAT DO WE DO?..........

[theme elohim]

I love the discussion that is all good, but now what about this event that is coming up because it is an opportunity to tap into that marketing and all we have been going on about....we can try to get Chucky to highlight that August is Hip hop Indaba and try to see where we can contribute because this is a huge showcase...remember black August? yeah, lets not get left behind because I am tired of all the real skills but we still in one spot

[XTERMINATOR]

I think it's high time we took this hiphop ish to another level guys.....Okay,let's say we 've produced the albums and shit...Whose going to play that shit..Coz personally i don't believe that those PowerFm don't have any hiphop tapes...They can at least support the growth of this movement by holding battlecall-ins,play more hiphop or just discuss it for crying out loud...I don't believe we can go anywhere if we don't overhaul the media!

[black ghost]

im not sayin that were ready to make albums yet. i got a homie of mine steward and we were gettin ready to cut a mix tape and he came up with this idea. he was like pushin an album is not the thing to do when your starting. you got to create hype. thats what cats in africa who are in the underground dont get. if youve got a hot product dont just dump it on the masses thinkin they'll all come. some might. but youve got to be smart about it. create hype so that more people are aware to the point where even cats who arnt down for hip hop are talking about the mix tape. first we cant think about makin profit. we got to get together give each other our contacts. then we find beats make a mix tape. we pool money and then burn copies and just sell the sheet on the streets from the trunk of a car with the shit bumpin. you sell the mix tape at the price of the burnt so that your coverin basic costs(wich is still way cheaper than spinalong) so its not about hunger or anything. i know each and every one of us is hungry for the ish. every time youwatch BET or MTV you feel it or you listen to some mcee on the radio. its about organization. we got to for some structured organization so that people see were serious. because how serious do we look if its cats scattered all over zim who have no cognizanse of the other groups. its about organization cats.

we cant leave it to chuck or anyone else. its up to us.

much love for the revolution...

[batsirai]

yo Black wats ur locaxion?......let me in on ur tape bro.

[QUODIVERSE]

Black man, me and you think the same.What you been sayin is the same thing i been telling kats this side.HYPE!HYPE!HYPE! by the time you drop yo stuff the media and the people are chasing after you not the other way round.We have to talk man.Hit me up Pm style and i'll let u in on some stuff i been working on with my organisation ,The Southern African Hip Hop Initiative.
-Q.

[black ghost]

the thing is we got to do it quick while weve got steam. so the h mcees call up the niggas you know and byo get the peeps you know get details of every one and the link that into one thing. if it can be something where by there are dues so that we can get some capital then thats better but people might be freaked obout givin money. the fact is if we get our shit legitimate then peolple wont fail to come through. so when we call up for a gig you have this list of mcees to txt to tell them so its like an army call up. you can designate people to be street teams to go out there and spread the hype with cds and flyers. we can approach non governmental orgs and say we are social commentators or some shit like we want to change our country for the better. shit like that never fails to get funding. so even if we can form som ngo it would be cool. ill skillz is doin law and so am i so we can fid out the particulars. actually whoever wants to should step up. too many things fail because no one wanted to even get them of the ground and give them a try.

[black ghost]

yeah so at some point it needs to stop being just talk we need to start actin so first i think we got to build a database of all the hip hop heads we got we can start with byo cats rounding up your people and H cats doin the same. so that gigs can be as large as possible whether its in H ar skies. so it should be like a military call up. then we got to get ourselves together somehow and have some convention or meeting or atleast choose reps from each city to meet up and form something.

much love to the revolution....