Ayo can i Unite all the Africans Mcees in this Forum
Posted 24 March 2003 - 04:52 PM
1st point is why would we depict a struggle that we have faced for many years just because it is now glorified on American tv.
2nd as Mcees truthfully ask yourself why you picked up the mic for the 1st time, was it for recognition(eg sex, fame, attention etc), was it for money , or was it to educate and convey a message
My opinion of being an Mcee was so that people from different places in the world could politic and convey they way the live in the particular place they live in, from a perspective different from that of which you may not be used to and as this would go on Mcees would trade ideas in search of finding better solutions of improving the ways we live. in anut shell its is w new form of polictics where the people speak their minds and trade ideas of better improving their living conditions without the use of crooked politicians. the only problem with this is "MCEES TODAY ARE SO LOST THAT THE WOULD RATHER GLOAT AND BOAST BOUT HAVIN THIS AND THAT WHEN REALISTICALLY THEY DON'T OWN SH**" and they basically forgot why they picked up the mic in the 1st place.
YOU are only as Original as your Idea--- to all you "real Mcees"
Sorry for the long Post
Posted 24 March 2003 - 07:50 PM
Posted 25 March 2003 - 05:35 AM
Guest_DaRk a.k.a Nash_*
Posted 25 March 2003 - 05:59 PM
I feel you on that. I'm Tinashe from Zimbabwe (19yrs). I've been visiting this site for a while now, I use to post frequently way back when catz where tight. Ya'll need to go way back in the archives when Agrik, DOPE, me (Nash), and other catz were blazin it up.
Posted 26 March 2003 - 05:10 PM
i'm so glad that alot of u guys responded very intelligently.........if u've listened to nas's single 'i can' u'll notice he actually educated the world bout africa........................we dont leave on trees, we aint thrash people...the world wants to know 'bout us but if we choose to sound so american while rapping and singing then i say we can call it a day.this a tyme when we should all tap in to da technology of developed countries and use it to our advantage......;production,distribution,communication..............................u start on ur part and lets meet again.
Guest_Mwenda aka Shaka_*
Posted 26 March 2003 - 07:25 PM
My Name is Musa W. Ochan
I live in Washington D.C but just recently moved to Canada to attend University, I am currently finnishing my Degree in Electrical Engineering specializing in Electronics. I've been an avid hiphop fan ever since i 1st watched breakdancing in 1984. I am 23 years old.
I b-boy and Mcee my mcee name is Musa aka Shaka aka Mwenda
I am originally from Uganda but was raised in Kenya, Tanzania, and Sudan
i have travelled through various places throughout the world. one of my missions in life is to represent Africa and portray it in its most righteous place. I may have not been to all the countries in Africa but I deeply feel that i belong to all. thats why whenever people ask me where I'm from i always say Africa without really specifing the exact pinpoints because i feel and due believe in Kwame Nkurmah, Patrice Lumumba, Nyerere and many others views as to africa in some context should be recognized not as a continent but as a country as a whole similarily as Austiralia. if this was to occur in harmony we would be a force to be recogned with. i know these views are not particularly of the above candidates but they were some what directed towards something of that sort. So i am not just speaking to Mcees but to everyone in general. I just feel mcees may have a better chance of being heard as to the fact that more and more of our youth listen to hiphop and if we can encourage them to see these views and respect our home land as being an enormous untapped resource before the Europeans and the west begin to recolonize it again then we would have a better fighting chance than our ancestors did. Belive me the will return. What bothers me is the fact that more and more of us are leaving our home land to pursue better educations and then acquiring good jobs and never returning home to at least teach what we learnt and implemnet our knowledge to better our home land, whjen the fact is according to Statistics around the world Africa has the most highly educated immagrants per capita who enter into these European nations. So can we get serious about our motherland before we end up regreting it in the end. Thank you and i apologize once again for such a long post.
Hit me up @ Shaka007zulu@hotmail.com
and for all you mcees in need of Production and collados I got mad hook ups no word of a lie. hope to hear from ya'll soon
Uhuru na Imani, 1 love, 1 heart, 1 voice, 1 fight. :wink:
Guest_Mwenda aka Shaka_*
Posted 26 March 2003 - 07:31 PM
Posted 27 March 2003 - 06:10 AM
my point is this. Hophop is like soccer. We learned it form another country, and we play it almost exactly the same, but, with a slight touch of difference. (wats different between okocha and denilson? - very little)
but, in the end, we emcee because we love the art form. by TRYING to make it african, then we deform it.
and....as much as i am a hiphop underground terrorist, NO ONE HERE HAS THE RIGHT TO DENY SOMEONE ELSE THE CHOICE TO BE COMMERCIAL, AS MUCH AS THEY DONT HAVE THE RIGHT TO TELL YOU JACK....freedom of emceein. just do whats in your heart - in the end, the truth proves victorious.
Posted 27 March 2003 - 08:32 AM
And as far as your comments on the origins of hiphop, its is a form of poetry and was originated in the states as far as laying it down on music, but as far as being orated that was established long ago probably even before african griots first implemented the art form. anyways i just wanted to see if anyone was up for the task it was just an idea i had in mind i did not place it to debate on the history of hiphop nor did i say let make it african, i just stated lets add some thing new to the artform for it is now so stagnant that you have children in africa fighting over who is a blood and who is a crip, you have kids fighting over biggie and pac, you got kids wanting to flaunt bling bling when they still sleep on a cot and have no educational tools of of acquiring these luxuries and i just think it is all madness. Let us breed children who can acquire the knowledge and understanding of how to acquire tools that can allow them to enjoy these luxuries without having to struggle for these entities.
sorry if you misunderstood my point.
if you have a better solution let us hear it i'm open to ideas that shall help us motivate rather than those that degenerate.
onelove oneheart onevoice onefight
Posted 07 April 2003 - 08:31 PM
Posted 08 April 2003 - 09:59 AM
i do not wish to speak on behalf of the whole African experience of Maafa survivors, but I do have experience enough to place my words on this screen and contribute to the dialogue, because hip hop is an expression of that pan-african culture that us young people know about so well.
my whole point in writing this is to simply say, we recognize the diversity of pan- afrikan culture, and with that we challenge the ideological construct of a so -called dialectic between the african born back home, and the african born abroad, whether in Europe or in the New World as descendants of african slaves.
Honestly, a lot of my experience with the diverse aspects of this pan-african culture has been in my university and intellectual life from meeting different african students such as my self from various regions of africa, and the world. God made it like that. So we africans, recognizing the power of this chance to advance our humanity... we build , build and build with each other. Not just studying together in a group for some class, we do that too, but i'm talking about making up for lost time. in a strictly philosophical sense , its been a while since we've 'seen' each other. Two custodians of the same pan-african culture, each from distinct and unique backgrounds.
Like this, if you out here in the Western Hemisphere of the world and you don't know where Tupac Amaru Shakur got his first two names from, and you claim to be a custodian of our culture, then you ain't serious. You a sucka. (Even if you don't claim to be a custodian , you are!because you folks out here is hungry, fiending for some freedom and reconnecting back to Africa),
If you can't appreciate the fact that Tupac Amaru was a revolutionary indigenous fighter from Peru who fought off Spanish colonialists in the 17th century, and Tupac Shakur was named after him in a tradition of African struggle in the Americas against slavery, then you don't know about this revloutionary culture called hip hop. Which implies that you ain't out here in the West learning the lessons required for your historical task in this African Renaissance that is taking place around the world.
You can't even respect the fact that after Tupac's death in 1996, that the tupac Amaru guerilla fighters led an attack on the Peruvian government, and the puppet prime Minister, right around the time the democratic of the Congo was temporarily united.
We ain't even talked about the Black Panthers yet. You can't even come to the West with out demonstrating your knowledge about the differences and relationships between the Shakurs( see, Assata, Mutulu, Tupac, Afeni, etc), the ji Jaja's( see Geronimo Ji Jaja Pratt), and other African families here in the wilderness of North America.
No, you ain't supposed to just know this and know that. But you are supposed to want to know, and if so, you are supposed to know who to go converse and receive this knowledge and wisdom. It really enhances you experiences out here in the West. We, the descendants of the West, have a lot of vital information to share with you, as we sincerely seek vital informatuion of ourselves from you all who were born back home.
General knowledge required for us who accept the responsibilities of masters of ceremonies.
I'm talking about stuff like revisiting hip hop classical material like digable planets 1993 album(10 years ago) "reachin, a new refutation of time and space" do yall remember that? who 's ready to really appreciate the content of that album by posing a philosophical discussion? Do yall think I'm playing when I say that all those interrelated themes throughout that album is really nothing more than an explanation of quantum physics according to a sound method waaaay fresher than the way Einstein's posed his General Theory of Relativity? I'm ready not only to battle those who doubt my intelligence on the matter, but also to show and prove my position as fact.
Was you listening to that album 10 years ago? If you were then maybe you know what I'm talking about. If you wasn't then I highly recommend for this upcoming autumn.
okay, i've listed just a few things illustrate the beauty in the diversity of our beautiful philosophy and culture.
And to clarify one more point: The African -American just don't live in the U.S. Geographically speaking, Afro-America extend all the way North to ALaska and Canada, all the wa down through Panama, down to the southernmost tip of Chile, to Tierra del Fuego. It strictly a political term.
Generally speaking, most of us don't use it, we say Black or African.
Posted 08 April 2003 - 10:55 AM
WE CAN DO THIS SHIT!!
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Posted 09 April 2003 - 09:50 PM
and we both fort out of that. Yung americans started hip-hop, yung South Africans started kwaito to express their feelings and lives in the gheto.Same as the Zimbabwean history too, and many other african countries.
Today, people think america's mo superior but i disagree, why do we have to listen to hip-hop but US citizens neva heard of Kwaito??
i think Americans r actualy somehow misled, cuz if ya say the word 'AFRICA' to an american they start to think Tarzan, n they think we livin in trees and shi. But i noticed that most of em dont know whats beyond they own country, n that kinda hurts me sum times. Our continent is precious but nobody really notices. Only a few black rappers been to Africa, most of em rather play in the "DEVIL COUNTRIES" countries like the UK! The same countries that have the intensions to re-colonise africa, but they neva visit their 'real home of origin'. Africa has been FORGOTEN!! U see people nowardays buyin bandanas and caps shirts etc with usa printed on them when the people aint even american, n that usually pisses me off too.
and the thing bout copyin American rap....... well, thats the only shi thats on the radios and TVs nowardays. there only a few South African rappers i've eva heard so far (some of em r pretty good).i dont try to make my verses sound American though, i just write whateva i feel sounds good...
THAT'S WAT DYME THINK
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