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[Poetic Seraph]

I received a message on another website asking me this: "Are you a nigga?"
Kinda surprised by the question of this 40 year old African man dressed like a youngsta, I wasn't sure what that person was referring to, so I asked him "What do you mean".
He replied:" i'm asking because you like hip hop, i can see in your pic's and profile.I am a niggar too.Are you?"

Sad as it is, this is a TRUE story. Ignorance never seems to fade away with certain people :-(

What on earth has been done to hip hop??

[IDEALIST]

sorry u had to deal wit that :?

hip hop will never be what it was to the people...only the person.
never take ur armor off. ignorant bullets come from all directions at any time

[Poetic Seraph]

exactly! I told this guy that we probably had different opinions about the word 'nigga' and I left it for what it was. But the dear gentleman was kind enough to explain to me the real meaning of the 'niggar' word (as he spells it): ""Niggar, is a word for hip hop member, not for a gang star or anything like that." "

Now I feel relieved that it's not a negative word, and it has nothing to do with gang banging, slavery, personal insults, denegrating world calling or whatever :)

I know this is just an ignorant person, but what happened to hip hop. it started out as the voice of the inner city youth, trying to make a positive change, and now people relate all these negative things (name calling, guns, gangs, violent,...) to hip hop...

[mceeQ]

hip hop started so innocent and naive but once the mainstreamers set da standards on a culture they didn't establish its all gone pear shaped.We need to go back to our roots and find a way, theres always a brighter day 2morrow Sista!!

[SKEPTIKSTYLEZ]

I find this stupid sincerely. Hiphop is a genre in music not bounded to any race although it was started by African Americans. "Nigger" was a derogatory word used by slave masters on African Americans during slavery. It is still seen by segments of them to be derogatory but others have gone pass this stage. And even when diced into "Nigga", it still might be used by some for these negative reasons. So trying to give a clear cut meaning or insinuation for the word is a bit fruitless. It's more fruitless and most stupid again when some people try to limit a genre of music to a certain race when even the oldest hiphop heads have done duets cross genre with rock and pop.

[Poetic Seraph]

I'm not sure if this guy was trying to limit hip hop to race. cuz he had clearly seen my pictures (as he had stated) and I'm as white as milk. Still he asked me if I was a nigga. For him the word 'nigga' is just related to hip hop and if you are into hip hop, you should be labeled 'a nigga'....... that's what I found sad about the whole story. the word 'nigga' should never been automatically attatched to the hip hop lifestyle, but I guess some people just don't get it.

I explained to him (in my own words) the history and meaning of the word nigga, and he replied " wow, you are right, how come you know so much about black people"..... I'm just gonna stick with the fact that he can't be very smart...

[SKEPTIKSTYLEZ]

LOL! Touche

[ik-sl!ck]

Sorry to divert but i got to air this out. We all love the old undiluted hiphop we used to know. It aint dead, it just evolved following darwins principle. Yall should get with the movement. There are so many ill rappers out there, but many people write them off because they put a little guntalk in their verse. Yall should give new dudes a chance, check their skill. The fact that they dont rap conscious all the time dont make them wack. I hate the idea of digging out old records because of a certain stigma and hatred for newrappers. I know that 99percent of them are fakers, but we should try to find the 1percent that stay true. Hell, even biggie did some commercial joints, yall should give dudes a chance.

[Poetic Seraph]

lol I aint got no problem with new rappers or gangsta rappers. everybody gotta do their own thang, I'm cool with that. I ain't got a problem with hip hop in general, (even though I don't like the bubblegum hip hop people like soulja boy and others make, but if it's payin their bills, respect to them hahaha). The whole point isn't about the new rappers putting guns and stuff like that in their lyrics, it's about how ignorant people can be, listening to certain things and automatically assuming that it is part of the culture....

[Emigee]

Well that was a bizarre way to put that across… hip hop has been misinterpreted most of the time and failed to have points driven home. Hip means to know hop means a movement. Hip is intelligent and so making hip hop an intelligent moment, in the description there is no race attached to this culture, this is a way of life and I feel there is no race as far as hip hop is concern. So we need to make that clear and let the world know that hip hop has so much more to offer in life, and it’s not racial for it will not communicate and bring what it advocates for the goodness of its nature.

[cornelius]

hiphop was young and naive so it got exploited,
you will be suprised most of the eemces, you consider whack are actually tight
their are record companies that wont sighn you unless you switch styles,
they say real hiphop aint making money, so they prefer the soija boy type,
i have been by some, gave them a demo, they said they can only sighn the mainstream gabbage,
they told me to change my shit, and if i do it am i fake them?
i want to make something out the game so am doing crunk now, aint that a bitch.

[IDEALIST]

If you influence kids the wrong way by pumping their heads with violence and telling them it's ok to down women and kill your brother then you might as well just sell crack for the money. That's not the same as being rebellious (that I'm all for)
Much of what makes Hip Hop is not just what you say but how you say it.
Yes rappers have been promoting the negative side of life more than 20 years ago but Hip Hop was suppose to grow in maturity but instead it's grown in adolescent behavior partly due to many record companies negative focus on pre-teens and young adults.
If you are doing what the label tells you to do and not what you feel then can you still call it art?
I'm not saying all commercial rap talks about that and if you do you are not breaking any laws of man. But you may be breaking laws of God
Dose that matter? All money ain't good money but I understand doing what you have to to put food on the table. That's where faith comes in for me.

Emcees fail to realize respect will outlast cash - KRS-ONE

[cornelius]

idealist you right, but sometimes we get caught up in the mix, you know these record companies are full of shit, and when you just trying to come up, the want to pull strings on you like a purpet.you find yourself in a position where you have to make a decission between what you like and whats going to push you further ahead.i guess sometimes we sell our souls and dont even know it.

[Couzifer]

Hiphop aint wut it used to be :cry:

[IDEALIST]

Believe me Cornelius,... I do understand 8)